Tuesday, 5 September 2017

Did William Reveal Kate is Eleven Weeks Pregnant? How is Kate? The Royal Foundation Launches Support4Grenfell!

Hello, hello!

We're back with a very brief post covering William's appearances today. A number of you have been in touch asking if we'll get an update on how the Duchess is feeling and when we'll see her again. Is there any word on how far along she is? There is no one better placed to address these questions than William himself. During a busy day, which saw him travel to Oxford for a policing conference, the Prince did just that. When asked how Kate is he smiled and said: "We just need Catherine to get over this first bit, then we can start celebrating next week." Reports have suggested this indicated the Duchess is eleven weeks along - hitting the crucial twelve-week stage next week. This would mean it's possible the royal baby could arrive in March.


William added: "It's very good news. It's always a bit anxious to start with, but she's well." He later said: "There's not much sleep going on at the moment."


During the engagement, William gave an absolutely excellent speech on mental health in policing and drew on his own experiences as a pilot with the East Anglian Air Ambulance noting how tragedies "can stay with you for a long time afterwards" and the impact seeing suicides had on him:

"I'd like to start, if I may, by acknowledging the role you play in our society and the considerable pressures you are under.  The police service only ever seems to make the news when one of two things happen: either a terrible tragedy or atrocity occurs, and quite rightly the police are praised for their extraordinary bravery and sacrifice.  Or at the other end of the spectrum, a decision is held up to account and censor.
Amidst all this, the reality of policing day to day is often overlooked. Your officers face the most difficult and chaotic elements of society every day: broken families; serious injury; terrifying assault; alcohol and drugs abuse; trying to maintain the peaceful and ordered society that most of us take for granted, and to do so whilst maintaining the British concept of policing by consent. It's a really difficult job, and the fact that it goes on every day under our noses without most of us noticing is testament to your skill in doing it.  Our whole way of being as a nation owes its peaceful existence to what you do, day in day out; and we are very proud of you.
One of the things that I most enjoy about travelling overseas is observing how different nations do policing.  There are some terrific examples, but I can honestly say that I have never encountered a culture of policing as it is in this country – discreet, low-key, with a sense of humour and great common sense.  It would probably be diplomatically remiss of me to name countries whose policing is different to this.  I would never be permitted to make a speech again if I did!  So I won't name anyone … but, as an aside, one of my favourite moments on an overseas trip a few years ago was watching two rival tiers in a police force – one local, one state – vying for supremacy to escort a convoy I was in.
The two motorcycle groups repeatedly bumped into one another at high speed, nudging one another off the road, until one force caved in and relinquished the road in favour of the other.  What was very funny was that the visit was semi-private but I think that by the end of my very first journey the whole city knew I was there. Discreet policing it was not! 
Policing by consent – in the way that you do it, and for which British police services are so rightly praised around the world – is hard work.  Policing is physically and mentally tough.  The stresses of uncertain and tense situations take their toll.  It is also hugely rewarding and at times enjoyable, and I know many of you talk about a policing family.  
You have been talking this morning about the issue of mental health and the impact it has on policing.  One in four adults will experience a mental health problem, so it is perhaps not a surprise that an estimated one third of all policing demand is connected to a vulnerable person in mental distress. This has a significant impact on policing time and effort, and it can also have a personal impact on those on the front line dealing with these cases. As a former RAF Search and Rescue and Air Ambulance pilot, I know what this feels like.
Over the past two years I worked with the East Anglian Air Ambulance alongside the police and other emergency services. My team was frequently tasked to help people in extreme distress, and I know I was not alone in being affected by some of the calls I attended. One of my first call outs was to a young man who had taken his own life. Looking at the statistics, I was astounded by how prevalent this was. Suicide is the biggest killer of young men in this country. Not cancer, knife crime, or road deaths – but suicide. This had a big impact on me. I was very fortunate to work with a team where we were encouraged to talk through the things we had seen when we returned to base.  There were days when, like you, we would have to watch our colleagues save some lives, and lose others. We saw traumatised parents dealing with the shock of having children involved in catastrophic accidents. There were patients we lost who we fought hard to save. I know that these real life tragedies can stay with you for a long time afterwards – even when we like to pretend they don't.
Being a member of the emergency services takes considerable mental strength and resilience, and I believe there is more that we can and should do to support all first responders to look after their mental health. You are skilled at helping people in extreme distress – so you should be looked after just as much.
Members of the police service are twice as likely to suffer from mental health problems as the general public. The recent Police Federation survey also showed that officers fear disclosing mental health problems due to stigma, the reaction they would receive from supervisors and colleagues, and the possible impact on their careers. Two thirds of respondents had come to work, despite serious concerns about their mental well-being.
This issue is by no means confined to the police force – the fear of stigma and a negative reaction is common in many workplaces. Over the past 18 months, through our Heads Together campaign, Catherine, Harry and I have been working with leading charities to change the conversation about mental health, and I'm really pleased MIND is here today. Don't get me wrong: there is a place for a stiff upper lip, and for a sense of humour to help get through a situation.  But there is also a place for openness and mutual support – that has to be part of the mix and, till now, it has not been sufficient.  Our aim has been to help tackle the stigma surrounding the issue, and to make it easier for people to get help as soon as they need it, without worrying what others will think of them. We are beginning to see progress, with more people talking about mental health than ever before, but we still have a long way to go.
The National Police Chiefs Council and College of Policing have a real opportunity to lead from the front on this issue. Police Officers are quite rightly respected for their courage and bravery. By creating an atmosphere where colleagues feel comfortable to talk openly and honestly about their issues, you can show that asking for support should be seen as a sign of strength, and not of weakness. There are a number of organisations able to provide immediate support on the phone or online, an in particular, the MIND Blue Light Infoline that offers specialist support for those serving in the emergency services.  I am delighted that MIND’s Blue Light programme is represented here today.  As you may know, it supports many police services across the country to provide simple and easy access to immediate support.​
Building on this work by MIND Blue Light, and the Heads Together campaign, I will be convening representatives of the emergency services to consider ways in which society might better support the work you do.  The tragedy at Grenfell, and the conclusion of my work as an Air Ambulance pilot, spurred me to look into doing what I can to support you in a practical way. The reason I think all of this is important is that being a first responder is tough enough as it is.  These pressures are not going to go away.  Therefore, it is properly essential you are equipped to withstand the realities of 21st century policing.  If more openness about mental wellbeing is part of the solution, as I believe it is, then I would like to help you with that.  I sincerely hope that the remainder of the day goes very well, and that today marks an important milestone in improving the support that you get and so rightly deserve. Thank you very much indeed for having me to speak."

This afternoon, William and Harry visited the Support4Grenfell Community Hub in Kensington. The Duchess was scheduled to join the princes for the embargoed engagement, but was unable to attend as she's very unwell with Hyperemesis gravidarum. Kensington Palace revealed: "Following the tragic events on 14 June, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry, like others, wanted to support the community. The Royal Foundation, of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry, established Support4Grenfell Community Hub."


Prince William made good on a promise he made in June when he visited Grenfell with the Queen and told locals he would return. The creation of the Community Hub is a milestone for the Royal Foundation - reacting to a crisis in Kensington so quickly by implementing the Hub to provide additional mental health resources for the children, young people and families affected by the Grenfell fire.


More from the press release:

While many survivors of the fire are dealing with serious physical injuries, the emotional impact for many families, children and young people has been very serious as well. The Royal Foundation has worked with local leaders, experts in the field, Heads Together partners, and those already providing support in the local community to help to ensure that any additional response is adequately resourced and coordinated.
The need for a central coordination space for this activity was identified and The Royal Foundation signed the lease for the facility in July. The hub will provide a dedicated space for various agencies and community groups to continue working collaboratively, reach out to other statutory and voluntary organisations, hold meetings and organise counselling and supervision. There is also space for children and families to come in and speak to the organisations represented there if they need a safe space to talk.

William and Harry meet representatives from organisations who are leading the emotional support response at the Hub, including Child Bereavement UK and Winston's Wish. As many of these charities have been working with local partners, schools, and community groups within Kensington for some years, it has allowed them to react quickly to scale up their local support in response to the tragedy, as others have done.


Kate's patronages the Art Room and Place2Be are very much involved in the effort. Below, we see Prince Harry meeting with staff and volunteers from Place2Be.


Next, William and Harry visited Al-Manaar, the Muslim Cultural Heritage Centre, to meet members of the community.


William meeting local residents, many of whom used to live at Grenfell Tower.


More from People:

'Harry and William spoke with Harry the Gomes family — parents Marcio and Andreia, both 38, and their daughters Luana, 12, and Megan, 10 — all of whom escaped the fire from their home on the 21st floor only to lose Andreia’s unborn son Logan, who was delivered stillborn hours after the fire.
“Talk about your loss, promise me,” William told the girls. Later, Marcio told reporters, “The princes were amazing. They really knew what they were talking about. You could see that they meant what they were saying.”
Praising them for setting up the hub, he said, “They have seen so many families impacted by the tragedy, and they know what they are going through. Everyone grieves in different ways. It is important that when someone is in pain that they have someone to talk to — not just next month, but next year or the year after.”

Prince Harry meets Hear Women, a group which runs Cook and Talk sessions to help bring women from all over the community together.


Steven Pretty says he can't forget the burning images and has thought about taking his own life since the fire. Steven bravely sharing his story, demonstrated the need for mental health support in the area.


I thought this photo of William meeting a little boy whose family lived in the tower quite heartbreaking. Residents of the Tower and their families have been through such a horrific ordeal. I'm so enormously pleased the Royal Foundation is offering mental health support and they are not being forgotten.


Another touching image of Harry meeting a little girl whose family have been affected. You can read more about Support4Grenfell here.


It sounds like Kate is going through a pretty rotten time at the moment. I know we all send her our best wishes, and hope she feels better soon. As discussed yesterday, Prince George starts school on Thursday morning. If it is at all possible, I think Kate will be there.


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In other news, a French court has ordered Closer magazine to pay £92,000 in damages and a further £90,000 in fines for publishing topless photos of the Duchess while on holiday in Provence in 2012. The Telegraph reports:

'The civil damages were far lower than the €1.5 million that the Duke and Duchess had asked for but their lawyer, Jean Veil, said that they were "twice as high as normal in such a case". In the criminal case, Laurence Pieau, the editor of Closer in France and Ernesto Mauri, chief executive of the Mondadori group which owns the magazine, were both handed the maximum fines of €45,000 for invasion of privacy.'

On the verdict, Kensington Palace released the following statement:

'The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are pleased that the court has found in their favour and the matter is now closed. This incident was a serious breach of privacy and Their Royal Highnesses felt it essential to pursue all legal remedies. They wished to make the point strongly that this kind of unjustified intrusion should not happen.'

I'm sure the Duke and Duchess are pleased this matter is now closed; hopefully the verdict will prevent such an invasion of privacy occurring again.

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Finally, the other big news story in the royal world today, is news Meghan Markle has given an interview to Vanity Fair revealing: "We're two people who are really happy and in love." If interested, the topic, interview and photoshoot are covered over on our Mad About Meghan blog.


We'll see you on Thursday! 

152 comments:

  1. Wonderful, wonderful engagements today! Too bad Kate had to stay home but the engagements are wonderful. Both the police event and the grenfell one makes me very proud! I am happy that William kept his word and visited again! And that the Royal Foundations involvement! Very nice day of engagements!

    Good for them that the court case is finally over! And ruled in their favour. I have understood others concern that this kept the incident in the media but I am with the Cambridges that they needed to put their foot down on this! I'm sure they're happy it's over.

    I am very surprised over Meghans interview. I'm not going to comment any more on that since this is not the Meghan blog and I'm here for the Cambridges.

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    1. To be honest, I don't think the court case changes anything. The magazine made much more money off the pix than they had to pay out. And it all comes down to money.

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    2. That is sad but true, Bluhare. But I understand it on a "personal level" and in a way of "taking a stance".

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    3. I get that too, Rebecca. Cynical bluhare says that will only mean a bigger slush fund.

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  2. I think I read somewhere that the baby was due in late April, but who knows. The court case: Good news for the Cambridges. Markle: In the past girls did not talk about dating a royal. If they did, then relationship was terminated. Markle, however, has talked or hinted from the very beginning. She is very sure of herself.

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    1. Maggie - Minneapolis5 September 2017 at 20:47

      I think that's just been everyone's guess bc of how close the dates (month and day only obvi) are for when they announced her 2nd pregnancy vs her 3rd....and Charlotte was supposed to be a late April baby. But last time aides had said that it was so early in the pregnancy that they had only just found out like a week ago...if ppl are correct in interpreting William's words, it would seem she's further along this time and we can't just compare dates w/ the last pregnancy.

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  3. Thank you Charlotte for the excellent coverage, as usual, the gold standard. Not so brief at all, thankfully.

    The speeches and photos, and them being there speak for itself. They are just getting better and better at touching lives and making a difference.

    Since Harry shared that the media was present and taking photos of Diana as she passed and then tried to sell the photos, I am sure William and Harry find the victory in France uber meaningful and satisfying. It definitely sets a standard. And no wonder Harry is somehow managing so expertly at keeping his girlfriend safe from the media after what they did to his mother. Woe be to any photographer that breaches his privacy with Meghan. I would not want to be in those shoes.

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    1. SG, William's speech *was* excellent. Diana would be so very proud of her sons and I'd like to believe that this applies to the Firm.

      And I couldn't agree more about the privacy issue. Given what happened to Diana, no wonder the boys want some control over their private lives.

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  4. It doesn't sound to me like he said "next week" in the video, but it is always hard to tell. It is lovely to think of them having such happy news, even though she is unwell again. I am incredibly impressed with William's speech - it is impressively personal and relevant. As well as this I am extremely glad to see the Royal Foundation's work with the Grenfell fire survivors - and that they are really practicing what they preach in terms of mental health work.

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    1. IM also not sure whether he said "next week". Also, i wouldn't understand whether he refers to Kate recovering from sickness (which would be what the first part of the sentence refers tΓΆ in my opionion), or the magical 12 weeks. If it refers indeed to sickness, then it would also be confusing as HG or even normal mornIng sickness don't typically stop because you reached 12 weeks. Normally it would last a bit longer. I wouldnt give to much to this comment of William and i honestly don't think she's already that far, but we can only guess, right?

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  5. Their events today just reiterated how much they are Diana's sons. Touching how well they can connect with people, just as she could.

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  6. Tammy from California5 September 2017 at 21:08

    Well, if Kate is almost 12 weeks along, then it should lay to rest the idea that she does not want to work. Obviously, she has been working-travelling to boot-and planned on working through pregnancy. It is not her fault that she gets sick so severely, and she has the right, whether people agree with it or not, to choose to have children as she pleases and so far, the right to choose how many she will have, whether people agree with it or not.

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    1. Agree, agree, agree!

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    2. Maggie - Minneapolis5 September 2017 at 22:03

      As Julie mentions below in another comment, if she's really at 11 weeks then by the time HG starts at its earliest, it would be August, at which point she was not traveling or working, bc she had the whole month off. And no one doubted her ability to do engagements during the VERY first month, given that most people usually don't even realize they are pregnant for at least a bit of weeks 1-4, and HG doesn't start rearing its ugly head any earlier than week 6ish, and can also start later (although Kate has seemed to usually start on the earlier end of the range in the past). So unsure about her proving anything about working during pregnancy. And like you said, not her fault she gets sick when carrying a child. So my concern is not that she will just use the pregnancy as an excuse to not work - according to what the palace has said in statements in the past, it may just not be feasible for her to do health-wise. Actually its likely to not be feasible given that HG gets worse every time too. I sincerely hope she feels better really soon, and that has nothing to do with me thinking she needs to stop making promises about increasing duties finally when she doesn't care about keeping them, and welll, probably also should work on starting to care about keeping those promises too lol. She can be pregnant, and it's just unfortunate that she's sick, but there was no reason to, yet again, allow KP to promise increased work when she knows there is a very slim possibility she would be able to do it given her pregnancy history.

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    3. Agree! Her God-given purpose is to be a good wife and mom. I don't know why people would complain about her wanting to be dedicated to being a good mom. The breakdown of our culture is directly related to the breakdown of the family. It's extremely clear that William and Harry's kindness, compassion and ability to relate so well to others is because of the dedication and impact Diana had on them. Kate's priority is to raise the future king and monarchy. What better investment could she give than to ensure her children are secure in their family relationships and love so they can have the emotional stability to reach out and care for others? She is clearly a wonderful mom and wife. Such a good example to so many. Love her!

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    4. Amen, Tammy and Tabitha. Couldn't agree more.

      I honestly couldn't believe how quickly (no, instantly!) this joyous news turned into a debate about work ethic and population control.

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    5. Tammy from California6 September 2017 at 01:48

      @ Maggie: I think life is not a science. I think it's messy. I think humans, in general, including the royal family, try their best to balance business with personal life. Some people are better at it than others, but we are all different. Argument on the points above are all based on assumption. Assumption makes the above points moot.

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    6. Amen to royalfan, tabitha and Tammy. Could not have stated the obvious better myself. I am praying for them as this is a very crucial trimester to get through and even harder when you are chastised for not stopping at two and your horrible pregnancy illness is placed under such a small microscope. Why can't those naysayers ever find it in themselves to be happy for someone and someone that most of has never met.

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    7. Trixie North Carolina6 September 2017 at 05:15

      Kate has hired a very sophisticated press secretary. I think she has every intention of working and working hard! William and her children will always come first though and rightly so!!

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    8. Julia from Leominster6 September 2017 at 05:36

      I always find it very retro and offensive to suggest that a woman can't do at least a reasonable amount of work - or even work full-time, and still be a good mum - most of the young women I know with little ones work - they have to work. They are devoted mums with happy marriages and their children are every inch as cute as George and Charlotte and even more precocious.

      William and Harry were raised by a working mum and seem to have been devoted to her. I do think it's lovely for mums to have time to be with young children - but I also think doing work a couple of days every week would do them no harm - possibly even be beneficial as one of the most important things parents can give a child is a sense of responsibility and work ethic.

      I'm sure Kate's a fine wife - but so are women who have to work full-time and manage their house too. Kate even with a work schedule of two or more engagements a week would still have ample time at home - and it's little wonder why most of the young women I know feel little interest or connection to her outside of her clothes - the fifties image isn't easy to relate to.

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    9. Victoria returned with season 2 and in the latest episode, she finds out she is pregnant again, and says she is not a broodmare, I don't know why but reading about "her god given prurpose is to be a wife and mom" evoked this line from QV. Certainly, she would say a thing or two about this.

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    10. +1, royalfan.
      Bravo, William - his speech was excellent! It clearly shows how much his work with EAAA has given him. Well done both W+H. Grown-up men full of empathy and not ashamed to show it - I wish there were more of them.

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    11. I second that amen, royalfan. :)

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    12. This kind of discussion irritates me because it's divisive. It's a personal decision. Whatever she does, she'll be criticized. Fine if a woman works full-time instead of staying home with her kids - whether she needs to or does it by choice. I don't think Kate should be judged so harshly for wanting to dedicate a few years to raising children before they're school-aged. In the big scheme of things (ie, a lifetime of royal service), is it really that much time? My husband and I haven't been able to have kids yet after much trying, but I will do everything in my power to be able to either stay home or have my husband stay home with them. The first 5 years are so crucial and I don't think it's a sacrifice that we will regret making. I don't judge anyone for staying home and I don't judge anyone for wanting to continue their career. I've never been a career person, though I have great respect for women who have that strong desire. I have a great job that I'm good at but it's never been the motivation that pushes me forward. For me, building a family feels more fulfilling to me and I certainly hope I'm not judged for who I am just because my personality aligns with a more "retro" lifestyle.

      Strong women lift each other up, not tear each other down.

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    13. Tammy from California6 September 2017 at 15:50

      Taryn: BEST POST OF THE YEAR.

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    14. Totally agree Taryn. I took most of the first year off when I had my son, and decided that after working full-time for 15 years, that I missed the challenge of my career. So I went back to work part-time for the next two years. Eventually I was back to work full-time about the time he went to school because it was right for ME and MY family! As you add more children to your family the dynamic changes, needs change, they need to figure out what works best for them. Kate is going to be judged no matter what she does. If she were out every day, people would judge her for letting the nanny raise the kids. I think it is time for William to be a "full-time" royal as he will be King.

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    15. Julia, with all due respect, I think it is the folks who are concerned with population control and work ethic who have introduced the concept of "can't" into the equation. No one is saying what a woman can or cannot do. From what I have read, most people are wishing them well and hoping that Kate's pregnancy is not too difficult.

      As I have stated before (many times), how far have we come if we have gone from men telling us what to do to women dictating to one another?

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    16. Ok this will come across as controversial but: if Kate wants to be a homemaker and really has little interest in "working," then it's better that she doesn't work. The kind of advocacy/charity work that royals do need someone who is passionate about the issue. It needs someone who WANTS to get up in the morning and advocate for this issue, instead of simply making an appearance once in a blue moon.

      Not everyone is cut out for this. Diana was unusual in that she seemed to find great comfort and meaning in her charity work and her causes even when her personal life was in shambles. Same with Charles -- in that respect, Charles and Diana were alike in that both of them felt passionately about the work they did.

      It seems like Kate's charities are things William is interested in -- mental health (since his own mother suffered from depression and bulimia), and she's most enthusiastic about sporting events like tennis. But my point is that all this has to come from within. If she's happier and more fulfilled raising three kids and being a hands-on mom then that's her role. There are some working moms who love their work, and others who work because they need to pay the bills. Kate doesn't fall into either category.

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      It looks good on paper, but she did not marry a commoner but the future king. It comes with responsibility, and it is very unfortunate that some just cant get that.

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    18. I have to say that in 2017 after twenty-four years of education if someone told me that my "God-given purpose is to be a good wife and mom" I would hang myself. Seriously.

      I feel like I have descended into the center of the earth when I read comments like this. Where does this kind of thinking come from or exist? What kind of underbelly produces this kind of thinking?

      And Charlotte can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE remove references to "god" from this blog. It is just tedious and gets my goat each time. Most of us come here as a reprieve from work and bad meetings and some of us don't want to be inundated with references to god all the time. I would much prefer to sit in on a meeting of asshats than to be constantly have god thrown in my face when I am hear to gossip and be silly.

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    19. Ivy Lin what you say makes a lot of sense. It is clear she doesn't enjoy this role.. and why force it? If they were to let her bow out of public duties she would have to be very transparent about it. It can be done but KP would have to be very careful about it.
      So far transparency and honesty with the public are not traits her press office is known for. They pretend she wants to work when knowing all the time that she has no desire or intention of doing more than the bare minimum. If they came clean and explained her thinking they might get away with letting her retire to her home life.

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    20. Ivy Lin, that's an excellent point and it's very possible that Kate will find her cause as she grows and matures. I may be more compassionate towards her because I believe we have similar personalities. She's obviously introverted (as I am) and it will likely always be difficult for her to feel comfortable in the public eye. I believe she's a loving and kind person, and I do think she will continue growing into her role. Even if she always plays more of a supporting role, I don't think she should be looked down upon for that. I wish people would give her time.

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    21. Rosman, I left a comment for you a while ago on the "Baby Makes Five" post, would you be so kind as to read it? With all due respect, readers of this blog are both believers and non-believers and wanting references to "god" removed from the posts and comments would mean serious censorship. Believe me, I had spent 18 years of my life living under communist regime which banned all references to "god" (they also used the word with a small g) from public life. I can't tell you how bad it was and how many brave people lost their lives - (no, they didn't hang themselves) because they opposed it. So it deeply upsets me to see a comment that asks for this kind of censorship. Some people feel equally put-off by being reminded repeatedly that Kate should work more and how frustrating it is that she is not a role-model of an extra-independent woman.

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    22. Zora if I wanted to read a religious blog I would go there. I feel that other people's beliefs are being forced down my throat.
      I don't believe in god and I don't want to have to be subject to people's assertions on how things are "god's gifts" when I come to a blog for light reading.
      If Charlotte wants this to be a forum where religious views are allowed then my view of GOD DOES NOT EXIST should also be allowed. If you are going to keep saying god to me I will also keep saying the above sentence to you. Because they are equal. Your view on god does not exceed mine.

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    23. Charlotte if you are going to censor my comments on children NOT being gifts of god then you should also censor those on children BEING gifts of god.

      I am seriously put off by this ultra-religiosity that is going on in the world and by extension on this blog. And I don't come to the blog to be subject to more of this. If people are going to assert that something is "God's" gift or so on I will also reply saying "God does not exist". My beliefs are as valid as their's and this is really not the forum to be preaching either of those beliefs.

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    24. Rosman, no, my view on God does not exceed your view on god but shouldn't we still be respectful to each other? I have a lot of friends whose view on faith and religion I don't share but we still don't call each other names and don't impose our views on each other. To me, that is tolerance.

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    25. Zora YOU are imposing your views on me by constantly throwing god into my face. I find it offensive. And I feel disrespected. Please understand that. I understand your history with being in a difficult regime has shaped your views. My own personal history has shaped mine. I am as uncomfortable with references to god as you are with references to beliefs regarding god being "shite".
      So if you and other worshippers on this blog will kindly refrain from subjecting me to discomfort I will do the same. Respect goes both ways.

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    26. Maggie - Minneapolis6 September 2017 at 23:30

      "Joyous news turned into debate about population control and work ethic", "deep personal decision".....yes of course pregnancy can be joyous news and yes the decision there is personally made, but I'm sorry...why are we acting like we've forgotten that Kate is a public figure? Anyone who is now offended that some of us might "dare" have an opinion about Kate's pregnancy is a hypocrite if they also think Camilla shouldn't be Queen, or that you don't like Charles. If pregnancy is a personal thing, then why isn't a public figure's marriage life personal and off limits as well?

      Rosman, I think people have the right to say their religious views mean they disagree with our opinion of something, just as I agree you have the right to say you don't believe in god. But I also think that while I'm sorry you are taking a break from this blog, I think it's unfair to say people shouldn't get to use their religion to make a point - everyone has a moral system structured by many different things, and one very big part of that IS the choice to believe or not believe in a higher power. If you do believe in one, that can be a huge part of your identity, and we can't just ask people to divorce themselves from that.
      Also I mostly just don't get the "every life is a gift from god" point bc I'd like to think that regardless of your religious views or lack thereof, everyone has *some* moral system that supports the idea that all lives on this planet matter. Also there are millions of people who think life is a gift from god but don't have just try to have babies all the time...life can be a gift from god and still other factors can also be in play...

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    27. There's a reason religion and politics are normally off limits for conversation. I don't think it's censorship to ask people to leave their religious beliefs at the door. I think it's pretty easy to leave positive comments about Kate without invoking god or other religious messages. Here's one.

      I think Kate is doing a good thing by being a hands on mother, and making sure her children have love and support at home, along with two parents. And I really hope she feels well enough to take George to school tomorrow. If not, perhaps someone could go in her stead. Carole is a hands on grandmother; perhaps she could go instead and report back to Kate.

      See? Easy peasy.

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    28. Rosman, as a person of faith it doesn't bother me at all to hear you talk about your beliefs that God doesn't exist. But asking for Charlotte to eliminate all references to God goes a bit too far. I understand how upsetting that comment was--honestly even as a Christian I get very frustrated by comments like that because of how much of my upbringing was overwhelmed with the view that a woman's highest/only calling was to be a wife and a mother. I LOVE being a wife and mom, but I also feel called to lots of other things and I don't appreciate when women impose this view on others. Anyway, I get why you're frustrated bc that comment rubbed me the wrong way too, but I don't think it was given with any intent to offend.

      On another note, in response to Ivy, I think it's unfair to say Kate doesn't enjoy her work. I do think she wants to prioritize her children in this phase of her life but she can (and has been) doing both! I think the move for William to go full-time is an important one but I am glad she has the freedom to continue her part time status. I may be biased because I just had my third child and go back next week to my 2 day a week job as a mental health counselor. I LOVE my job and feel that I am very good at it and am very fulfilled by it, but if it became incompatible with our family life I would quit in a heartbeat to make sure my kids were getting their needs met. Every family situation is different and I for one think she does a fantastic job balancing everything she has on her, and I love seeing such an amazing woman enjoying her children and willing to suffer through another miserable pregnancy for another baby (I often feel like the odd person out among my friends for having 3 kids and wanting another). I also know tons of moms who work full time and love their children just as much and agree we need to support each other rather than always be looking for ways to critique.

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    29. I "get" that she has responsibilities. She has to play the ambassador, the hostess, she has to not bring embarrassment to the royal family, blah blah blah. What people are complaining about here is that the kind of intensive charity work that Diana and Charles did/do is clearly not her thing. And I'm saying that if she's a super-duper traditionalist and prefers to stay at home with the kids, then it's better for her just to do that and raise a beautiful family, rather than boxing her into charity work that doesn't interest her. That's probably the best decision for everyone.

      I don't say this in a derogative way, but Kate's charity work seems to be making an occasional appearance, shaking hands, wearing a pretty dress, and then disappearing for a few more weeks. And that is just not helpful to anyone. It's not helpful to Kate if her heart isn't in it and she'd rather be home with the kids. It's not helpful to the charity if there's no follow-up. Better to find an advocate that WILL put in the legwork.

      And we have to face the very real possibility that William likes his wife to be a traditional homemaker type. He obviously adored his mother but his mother's very high profile life (including her charity work) made her stalked by paparazzi and he and Harry from the documentaries and remarks I've read still blame the paparazzi for her death. He and Harry also seem comfortable making themselves the advocates for their causes which obviously are influenced by a lot of their mothers' struggles.

      And plus, I'm of the opinion that work ethic is one of those things that can't be changed about people. I worked in a very rough transfer high school and my favorite memory is the time me and my co-worker, the mom of two little kids and pregnant with her third child, followed some of the kids to a notorious drug den before school. This little pregnant lady next to me was screaming at them to get their tooshies to school and threatening to call the police on the drug dealers. My co-worker was/is fearless and tireless. Three little kids, and she spends hours after school tutoring kids.

      BUT ... this comes from within with my friend. She finds value in her work. She loves what she does. She would be this way no matter what job she did. If Kate finds the most value in her staying home and sees her role in the royal family as more decorative, then that's what her role should be. You really cannot force someone to work hard, especially if there's no financial need.

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    30. Zora, I support you in your comments. As someone who has been persecuted for my beliefs in Yahweh, I feel for you for the years you spent suppressed. Hugs to you. ❤️

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    31. Victoria doesn't come on PBS here until January, 2018. Can you believe that? :)

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    32. I've never noticed undue reference to a deity here, but of course we are talking about a woman married to the future "Defender of The Faith". Respect for all religions, or none, is all we can ask of each other.

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    33. Rosman, sorry but once again: I do not "constantly throw god into your face", I have never imposed my views on you, I do not normally refer to God in my comments for the simple reason that I know there are a lot of non-believers among readers. Also, you can repeat to me that god doesn't exist as many times as you wish - that is your view which I respect and which doesn't offend me as I find it equally valuable to my view. What offended me, though, was calling other people's views "sh**te". As far as I remember, nobody here has ever called any non-believer's views "atheist s**te". People simply say what they believe - such as in the phrase about children. If you find that offensive, I don't think the problem is on those people's part. I agree with you that respect goes both ways - I only made my comment because I saw a lack of respect in your comment, not because you said there was no god. And my mentioning censorship in my country in the past does not mean that communism shaped my views - rather the contrary.

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    34. Zora, you did not bring up god but many people do over and over again. And I don't mind at all when they are innocuous but the comments in the last post were preaching. Borderline proselytizing. And that IS offensive, no matter what you or anyone else says.
      I am going to just say that I have a lot more to say and could go on debating this for hours with you and Maggie but I have neither the time nor the will. I hope everyone will let Charlotte's word be the last one.

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    35. Ivy Lin, I agree with you. I too wish Kate would just say she's done with anything except ceremonial occasions she's obligated to attend as William's wife. HG notwithstanding (and I do think she's going through a horrible time right now), it's pretty obvious she doesn't want to do anything except the bare minimum, and she'd much rather be at home with her children. My mother was a SAHM, and I certainly don't begrudge it for anyone else either. But just say so, for godsakes! (Is that invoking religion? :P)

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    36. Ha ha bluhare.. you just had to didn't you :)
      Yeah I agree with Ivy Lin as well - I think it makes a lot of sense what you said. I hadn't thought of it that way at all. And I agree especially that work ethic does not change or evolve over time. As I said before, if Kate declared in a transparent way what her true intentions are I think she would get away with it, with minimum fuss and uproar.

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    37. Ivy Lin, I don't think it's fair to compare Charles and Diana's situation with that of William and Kate. Back in 1981 when C&D married, he was the next in line...as he is today. The Queen knows what she missed with her children when her father died and she ascended the throne at such a young age. And William is well aware of his mother's circumstances. I respect him for seeing to it that the mistakes and sorrow of the past is not being repeated and I think it's wonderful that W&K have these precious few years to prioritize as they have because of the "extra generation" (C&C) that is between him and the throne. W&K will not retire from public life at an age when most of us can look forward to doing so and I believe that their mark on the monarchy will not be measured by the first 5 - 10 years of married life.

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  7. Maggie - Minneapolis5 September 2017 at 21:24

    French privacy law is notorious for being quiet strict in defending even public figures' right to privacy (sometimes to ridiculous points like where French citizens are the last to find out about a political leader's affair while rest of the world knows lol). It's also known for its strictness not translating to adequate punishment per say. The courts immediately forced Closer to hand over all the pictures, for example. And in general, the ruling that it was an invasion of privacy is right in line with its usual, bc of its laws. But here, even though the Cambridges won a bigger settlement in a privacy case than ever before in France, I'm not sure it actually means much. For one thing, France is known for judgments w/ puny damages, so being highest relative to that is not necessarily that high. And for more context - Closer will have to pay $200,000 total for all this, while it is said they made around $2 million from the original pictures. I can't see how this basically slap on a wrist would deter anyone in a similar situation from doing the same thing.

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    2. I think the fact that they took action is the important thing. They followed through. They won. The magazines still made money yes, but a legal precedence has been established for the boys. It may not mean as much in punitive damages in France as it might in another country but the fact remains they defended Kate's right to privacy the best the law of the land allowed and it is a start. The French outlet had a couple of years during the process to think about it. Of course the boys always have MI6 as a backup. :)
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    3. Maggie - Minneapolis6 September 2017 at 19:51

      France is full of legal precedent for public figures having a VERY strong right to privacy. There's really no such thing as establishing legal precedent for a single person. Anyways, I'm not saying they shouldn't have bothered; I don't blame them for wanting to anyways. I'm just saying that I don't think it got them much, which isn't shocking bc France is known for exactly this.

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  8. according to the chinese conception calender it will be a girl again :) (was right the last two times also)

    hoping for a Victoria

    CU Amy

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      Cute CU Amy!!!

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    2. Really? That's interesting, but how can you figure that out if we don't know for sure what month the baby is expected to come?

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    3. I think Kate couldn't bear the thought of George not having a brother like William had or Charlotte a sister like she did!! I'd love if it were another girl!

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  9. Really great engagements today & IMO what I expected from them as they step up their role game. So inspiring to see how the Royal Foundation has stepped in and created the hub for people impacted by the awful fire and tragedy.

    Williams speech at the Police conference was spot on & you can tell how much he learned & experienced being a helicopter pilot with EAA.

    Sad that Kate could not join in. Seems like Harry stepped in for with some of the groups they met. I hope she plans to go on her own later.

    Possibly 11 was along is quite far. It means most of her suffering was down while she had little to no engagements after the tour. Could mean HG is starting later this time or it could be that she is close to being done. I hope it's the latter & she feels better soon.

    Meghan article is interesting food for thought. As others I think an announcement is imminent.

    Thank you Charlotte for highlighting the work today of W & H!

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  10. I suspected when I heard the news yesterday, that they knew Kate was pregnant when she made that comment to William in Poland, back in July. I think they may have only just found out, which would have made her 4 weeks along, which would make her 11 weeks now and due in late March as Charlotte said. I was hoping for mid-April, which is when I'll be in London next year. I just think it would be exciting to see in person the BP Tower lit up in pink or blue to announce the birth.

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    1. I think this makes complete sense. She must have just found out.

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    2. @Julie from Leominster, I agree with you about Meghan, the whole thing just seemed wrong. I would have much more respect and belief in a relationship lasting between her and Harry, if she'd said "That topic is private and not up for discussion". Or even, a "Yes we're dating, we're happy but I won't discuss it further". I understand she's an actress and publicity is important but she doesn't need to generate it, it happens without any help from them.

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  11. Julia from Leominster5 September 2017 at 22:46

    William's speech was excellent and he and Harry made a great team on a very touching engagement - as soon as Kate is well enough, I hope she will find time to visit too - this was possibly her most engagement of the year. It would be nice to see her extend a caring hand to her neighbours who have suffered as hopefully none of us ever will.

    It is nice to see William and Harry's engagement covered - (I still lament the Royal Digest - most of the other royal blogs are fashion blogs or full of tittle-tattle.)

    It would also be ice if Kate would finally extend a caring hand to other women with HG. - many of whom suffer hardships - having to try to work, caring for children and houses whilst being violently ill - that she will never face. I have been puzzled why she has not been involved before now and why she didn't mention it when discussing issues women have with pregnancy and newborns. That is one thing I will say for Diana - she didn't shy away from realising that working with the issues she struggled with could help others - from eating disorders to the charity Relate. William and Harry have picked that up.

    No further comment on Meghan except the photos are flattering but I can't believe the palace authorised this - although Harry might have. It's very Hollywood - and to this tired old woman, that is not a compliment although Meghan's beauty is undeniable. I'm assuming this is the American, not the British Vanity Fair - or am I wrong.

    The award seems average compared to what other celebrities have received in similar cases in Britain, but I don't know the French law - that would come into play - although I don't know why they would ask for more than permitted under law. I did feel the amount asked for was outrageous but that they were entitled to something.

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    1. Diana did a lot of good and was creative in using her fame to bring attention to many issues, but I'm not sure (understatement here!) that the Firm wants a repeat. And this may be another reason there is such an emphasis on the TRIO.

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    2. Jessica from Los Angeles6 September 2017 at 16:38

      I agree, I think it would be wonderful for Kate to meet with other women with HG and talk about her experience. She's had to be hospitalized at least once, so obviously it's been rough. I think a meeting like a support group would be wonderful for sufferers of HG.

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    3. Maggie - Minneapolis6 September 2017 at 19:49

      I mean, the Firm surely didn't want a repeat of the past 8 months of constant Diana discussion, interviews, documentaries, etc., but obviously KP didn't care. I don't think it's a bad thing, but I think it's been clear from basically everything that Clarence House and BP do not control the Cambridges or Harry. Also Kate is obviously going to do charity work - I'm not sure why it would be such a huge deal for any other royals if some of it had to do with HG. Diana was a little different imo bc eating disorders are something with quite a bit of stigma - society unfairly judges people for having them, and so the BRF probably didn't want it constantly brought up that one of their own suffered from one. With Kate, it's morning sickness....people don't judge you the same way for that.

      I do know that some people on here and other places have mentioned PTSD-related issues after suffering from HG - it's possible Kate has a similar problem, and I wouldn't blame her for that. And, while I think Diana was incredibly brave for opening up on her own issues to help others with similar problems, I don't think I ever would *expect* or even strongly feel like a royal *should* do the same...that puts a lot of pressure on someone. Obviously it would have to be a topic they have personal experience with, which means they've suffered from it too. Everyone, no matter who they are, has a right to take as much time as they need to be able to deal with that in their own way, and maybe part of that means moving on and not talking about it anymore. Julia does make a good point that Kate is so lucky for having the medical care she does and the luxury to take as much time off from a part-time job as she wants. It would be cool if maybe they made a donation or something, even if she didn't want to talk about it herself.

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    4. Maggie, I think there are areas that Charles won't compromise on (Camilla being at the top of the list), and likewise for William. I believe that William will yield to certain expectations from CH, but will not budge on others (where his wife, children, and mother are concerned).

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    5. I hav wondered that too, Julia. Why doesn't Kate get into some form of charity work for HG? Sometimes I think that when you are in the middle of something and you yourself are struggling with it, it is hard to help others. Once Kate gets a bit of distance between herself and her pregnancies, I think she might. Give her a few years to find her way of how to deal with it. I actually think that Diana addressed those difficult issues of her life later on, not necessarily when they were occurring. That would almost be super human.

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  12. Thanks for this, Charlotte! I enjoy keeping up with William too. :)

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  13. Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Kate photographed drinking on the last tour? If she is 11 weeks now, wouldn't she have known she might be pregnant then? If 11 weeks is correct, it leaves me to wonder if baby #3 may have come as a surprise to them.

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    1. I think this was a "pleasant" surprise pregnancy for them . Did you notice Williams comment, it is very good news. It kind of stood out to me as I don't recall he has said that the last two times either that he was very happy or something like that. My mom and I always have this discussion but how can pregnancies be really a surprise when you actually are quite intimate, something obviously happens so how could it be a surprise unless you forget to take your "no" pill. πŸ˜€

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    2. She joked about having more babies. I had a strong hunch that she was pregnant then and had found out. A couple of sips of alcohol at 4 weeks won't matter. I don't think that even counts as "drinking" per se.

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    3. She may have only taken a few tiny sips. If she'd refused the drink when it was offered to her she'd be giving away the news

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    4. It's also very easy to be polite and pretend to take a few sips.

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    5. true, royalfan. I have done that more than once myself, even when I wasn't pregnant. It works. :)

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    6. Exactly, SG! I get migraines and champagne is a trigger so I have become an expert at pretending when faced with making a happy toast. :-)

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    7. It is absolutely acceptable to have a drink here and there when you are pregnant. Besides, I think Kate was just sipping a bit of wine or liqueur. Nothing to worry about.

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  14. Thank you for posting W & H's visit!! I had just said in the other post re K's pregnancy that I love following W & H as much as I enjoy reading about K. And what an excellent post it was to. Thank you!

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  15. Hmm i think the suspect in july when they joke in one the enagement in poland maybe they made test back home... maybe she was four weeks may then hmm about the hg for the duchess is not lazy or something maybe she had diffucult pregancy now during her first and second is not severe than now .. it just my just saying does mean im correct .. but my friends who exprience hg during their pregancy they can move a little bit but cannot work as for the duke speech i love the speech

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  16. What an excellent speech by William! I do think he is very skilled at speech making and as always he and Harry are a good team championing a very worthy cause! His service as a helicoptor pilot has and will serve him well!!

    As for Meghan, I agree with Julia in that she is a very beautiful young woman, but I am still not quite on board. Just when I was beginning to think she had stepped out of the limelight and I was beginning to gain a new respect for her, this current interview and magazine cover seem somewhat forward to me. While I don't doubt that she has Harry's full consent and support, it still seems to me that a statement of that nature should come from both of them together...for both their sakes I do hope that this is genuine. cc

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  17. Nice to see William and Harry out and about. It would appear that William is increasing his workload and visibility. The two of them make a good team. Perhaps this will ease some of the pressure on Kate being present, but I doubt it.

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  18. I so enjoyed your post this time covering William's engagements with Harry. Most informatve and enlightening about William himself. With everybody else, I send my good wishes for Catherine to feel better as soon as possible.

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  19. William conveyed the compassion, understanding and poise that suggests he will be a truly great monarch when his time comes. Thank you Diana.

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  20. Julia from Leominster6 September 2017 at 05:19


    Eleven weeks would mean Kate was almost a month pregnant on the tour - even though she didn't even seem tired on what was a fairly strenuous tour. But she did hint something about a third child so I doubt it was any surprise. I don't know that she drank enough to matter. So who knows. There was that rumour she was in hospital last month - but we all discounted that -it was that Australian magazine that's always saying things. There were also rumours Mary of Denmark was pregnant - most of that stuff seems to be nonsense.

    Kate looked very healthy just last week in the gardens - so the HG must have just set in.

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  21. I´m sorry, but I´m getting kind of confused here. If Kate is already 11 weeks pregnant and her HG seems to be in the final stage (during her earlier pregnancies she thankfully got better after the first three months), why did she look so totally "non-suffering" last week at Kensington Gardens? Don´t get me wrong, I´m totally happy for her feeling totally well during her pregnancy, but if you´re suffering from severe HG, and vomiting day and night, you "look that way", right? And she clearly didn´t last week. So maybe William just meant that she started to suffer from HG last weekend and they are waiting for the treatment "to kick in".
    Please I´m not saying here that someone suffering from HG should "look like it", it´s just that you usually do. Last week, I was kind of "startled" (in a positive way!) about how truly happy she looked, although the circumstances (remembering Diana) were rather somber. My initial thought was "Someone just got VERY happy news!!", so happy they just couldn´t hide it. So when I heard the news about the pregnancy I immediately thought "Ah, that´s why she looked so happy last week, maybe they had just found out!" It´s of course not really relevant, it´s just confusing me... We will find out in due course, I guess... ;-))))

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    1. That's so far the first explanation for the "next week" sentence that makes sense to me and doesn't raise further question. Probably they wait for the treatment to kick it. Thas the only explanation so far that makes a reasonable connection between the first part of the sentence about Kate's health and starting to celebrate. I have been pregnant three times and never waited with celebrations until week 12 :) week 12 rather gave me some relieve, of course. However I did start enjoying pregnancy only when the sickness part was over.

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  22. I am very happy with the HUB. Great thinking and planning by the Royal Foundation. Fantastic!

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    1. It's really great...I'm very impressed with their efforts & well done to William on a personal & effective speech.

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    2. Yes. The Hub Center. What a blessing. :)

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  23. I think that baby Cambridge.n3 will be born on 25th March 2018 :)

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  24. Really liked Williams speach! Seemed to be very personal and passionate.

    Think during the Poland / Germany tour she was already pregnant but didn't know, maybe they found out on Georges birthday...who knows?!

    Regarding the increase in royal engagements for her. Maybe it was planned so and if she wouldn't have felt so sick probably she would have done all of her engagements like planned.

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  25. Kate was drinking on the last tour so I don't think it's possible for her to be 11 weeks along. I highly doubt she'd drink in public just to keep up a front. We've seen her previously drink water on a tour when everyone else was drinking alcohol. Also, morning sickness usually sets in by week 6. I also suspect that due to her status and access to healthcare she's receiving more scans than the average woman. Next week could simply be the first scan around 8-10 weeks to identify a heartbeat, after which the rate of miscarriage quickly declines.

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    1. She was seen and photographed drinking white wine at a pub a few days before it was announced she had HG with Charlotte. Some women believe/are told a "little bit" of alcohol is okay. Though I disagree.

      Who knows what William meant.

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  26. I predict Harry and Meghan's wedding will take place in April 2018, with Harry created Duke of Sussex. Dorian, future Viscount Iverness, will be born the following winter, and Lady Frances Windsor will arrive in 2020. The couple will devote themselves to African preservation charities, veteran affairs, modern-day slavery and gender equality.

    Any questions? :)

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    1. Oh Jen love it!!! Can’t wait to see if you’re right!

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    2. lol, jen. nope. no questions. time will tell. :)

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  27. I'm not sure whether I should put this out there or not, but if William's words do mean that Kate is 11 weeks pregnant, that means the baby was conceived in the week of William's birthday. You thinking what I'm thinking?

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    1. I find contemplating about how, when her pregnancy happened divisive and frankly distasteful. I hope the Bible reading brigade come and back me up on this one.

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    2. Hey, how did you get a picture next to your account? I have a bluhare picture all locked and loaded, and I can't figure out how to get it on there.

      It's probably something really simple and I'm making it much too complicated.

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    3. Anett, I am truly sorry if my comment upset or offended you (or anyone else on the blog). I have Asperger's syndrome, which means I can have difficulty knowing when my words might cause offence or seem too blunt - I cross the line without realising it sometimes. I have become a little better at it over the years, but clearly I still make mistakes. With that in mind, with a heavy heart I have decided to stop commenting on the blog from now on. I will still read Charlotte's posts (both here and on the Meghan blog) but I don't want to run the risk of upsetting anyone again, so I will watch from afar. Best wishes to everyone. Helen x

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    4. Helen

      I am so sorry about your condition.
      I still hold my ground, this is not a topic for discussion. BUT please change your mind and come and comment, obviously there are many things we don't know about each other, but there is one thing we share here, the hobby of discussing royal matters. Good or bad, positive or negative, everybody can share his or her thoughts,agree or disagree, it happens.

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    5. Helen, please don't stop commenting just because someone was put off. Disagreements happen, but you're still entitled to your opinion.

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  28. I suspect Kate is about 4 to 6 weeks along, and that HG kicked in over the weekend. She would not have been at Balmoral and attending church if she was suffering then. She looked healthy during the garden visit, but I wondered about pregnancy given the look of her face. I had been concerned about Kate because she did not look well during the Belgian events.

    It seemed to me that Carole looked more tired than worried in the car photo. Very likely, she spent a day with two active younsters. :-). They may have needed to be entertained and distracted and even comforted when their mother was suddenly ill and unavailable. That could be perplexing and frightening for them, even though their parents must have tried to prepare them.

    William's speech was excellent. And I like the way Harry stepped in for Kate. They have made a fine beginning to the autumn. Since the Queen and William made the first visit to the Geprenfell victims, and she knows how traumatized they were and are, she must be very much in support of the effort spearheaded by the WKH charities.I would guess she has been consulted and perhaps even provided guidance.

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    1. yep. A day with two under five could easily make one look a little bedrazzled. hope that's it. :)

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  29. What a wonderful post Charlotte! I do enjoy it when you include William’s and Harry’s doings. Harry always was wonderful with people, and I think William is growing into his role beautifully (I was really impressed with his speech). I hope that Kate will start feeling better soon - I doubt that HG is ever something you get used to. She’s a brave woman! I had a bit of morning sickness, but as long as I stayed away from the smell of hot coffee I was usually alright. To go into a third pregnancy knowing that you are likely to develop HG again - I have no words. I also ducked over to your Meghan Markel blog, and am impressed by her as well. I like the fact that she seems to feel secure enough in her relationship with Harry to name it as such. The public “face” of it (such as it is!) is so different from any of the liaisons he’s had with other women. Here’s hoping she’s a keeper!!

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  30. About date of birth - pregnant takes 40 weeks so it means that should be not beginning (like most of people is thinking) but at the end of ninth month and this is for sure April not March if now is about 11-12 weeks pregnet ��

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  31. So this article by Tom Sykes claims that the Palace has known for weeks that Kate has been ill and waited till the Diana hoopla had died down to announce the news. That would also tie in with the Kate hospitalized a few days ago story. I don't know what to believe because last week she looked very fit and normal. And KP only recently scheduled engagements for this week. Yet Carole looked extra-worried yesterday and reports say that she won't be able to make it tomorrow to drop off George.. So maybe her HG comes and goes ? Most people I have heard from say it was relentless, so at least she has some good days here and there.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/celebrity/how-duchess-kates-pregnancy-has-reset-the-royal-narrative-after-disastrous-diana-fueled-summer/ar-AArkMlc

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    1. Rosman, on the one hand, it would make sense to wait until after the anniversary of Diana´s death with the announcement - on the other: she seems to be really sick now if she misses out on George´s first schoolday, right? And that´s not really a sign of her being at the end of the first trimester, rather at the very beginning of HG and the pregnancy. All of this based on the assumption that this pregnancy will be comparable to the other two as far as HG is concerned. Both times she seemed to be much better after the first three months and with George she also had this engagement at her old school and looked rather well, only to be hospitalized two days later because of HG. If I remember correctly, she was about 6 weeks pregnant when she was hospitalized. So this would suggest, she´s just at the beginning at the moment... As I´ve said, it´s a bit confusing...

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    2. I also think that she might not be as far along as everyone thinks, Eve. Mostly because I can't imagine that she would have gone on the tour of Poland & Germany knowing that she might get sick with HG any day. She also drank beer while in Germany.

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    3. Maggie - Minneapolis6 September 2017 at 23:10

      Caroline, even if she's 11 weeks pregnant, she'd still have been in her first month during the tour, and HG doesn't start until week 6ish. So I don't think that would have been a concern. And she took maybe like a tiny sip here and there of alcohol during the tour - pretty much negligible.
      Also I know Kate has generally improved after the first trimester, but actually that was really just the 1st pregnancy. The 2nd one...while she started doing some royal duties again once she hit 12 weeks, the Palace had been clear that she was still suffering from HG then and not completely over it. Which makes sense since it usually gets worse. And so I wouldn't be surprised if it's just lasting longer this time. The only thing then that would confuse me is yeah, she did look healthy just last week - although even with her last pregnancy, when she back to do work she seemed quite healthy too weight-wise. My guess is that maybe with her top-notch medical care, they can mostly control the vomiting, but she's probably still feels incredibly nauseous all the time.
      But I mostly just think people are probably thinking way too much about what William meant.....Harry said the day before that he didn't know how she was bc he hadn't seen her in awhile when he'd seen her just last week haha.

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      I wonder if they did know before the tour, and Kate's comment about having more babies slipped out bc of that very reason - it might have been on her mind esp if it was discovered happened recently. But then, pregnancy speculation immediately escalated so fast, which she wouldn't want for privacy-sakes and bc it would distract from the whole tour....so maybe that's why she chose to toast with wine as soon as possible. William actually toasted with water.

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  32. Yes Kate was fine on that day, but once she hit the 6-8 week mark that's when the HG kicks in. So she was fine on the 31st and the next day or days is when the HG started.

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  33. “The need for a central coordination space for this activity was identified and The Royal Foundation signed the lease for the facility in July.”

    They are in action. That is good news for a sad accident affecting people in so many ways.

    William did return as he promised then. Harry joining him was a good representation of the Royal Foundation aka HRH Duke and HRH Duchess and Prince Harry foundation.

    I hope Kate will feel better soon. All best wishes for speedy recovery.

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  34. It's all very confusing re how far along Kate is - she looked totally fine last week and there was no sign of a bump, which I'm assuming there might have been if she were indeed 10-11 weeks along with her 3rd child. I somehow don't think she is that far along, and maybe William is trying to throw people off.

    Also, I think it's very rude to speculate when a baby may have been conceived - it's really nobody's business and just plain wrong.

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    1. I find it puzzling as to why in the world they just don't come out and tell us how far along she is. What is the big mystery? We know she's pregnant. They know people will be awaiting the day the baby is born. I can understand them wanting the gender to be a surprise but letting us know how far along she is should be no problem in my opinion. People often ask pregnant women, "How far along are you?" or
      "When is your due date?" I have never had an pregnant mom get angry with me for asking either one of those questions. And these days they can really pinpoint just how far along a pregnancy is.

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    2. I agree - the bigger mystery they make of it the more it spins out of control. Everything is such a secret with W&K...I can't wait for the Harry/Megan era to start - i think they are a much more interesting couple!!!

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    3. I attribute the mystery more to the Palace than William and Kate, btw. William and Kate might be so much in the thick of it that the thought hadn't crossed their minds. Maybe it hasn't crossed the minds at the Palace either. Hopefully they read this blog and it will be now. :)

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    4. Honestly, I don't think we should or need to know the exact date. I'm fine with a diplomatic guestimate.

      If the public was privy to the exact date, it would only lead to frantic speculation if the baby was early or in no rush.

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  35. I'm so happy for Wills and Kate I hope she doesn't get sick again during pregnancy. Meghan looks beautiful on the cover on the magazine I'm happy Harry has found love I hope they marry if charles can marry Camilla who was divorced and a home wrecker and evil to Diana . Meghan certainly should be able to marry Harry

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  36. And Charlotte I am seriously upset that you chose to remove my comment that said that all children are not a blessing. I made that comment with thought and logic, not out of belief. Yet you chose to censor it.
    I find it unfair and not kosher. If you are going to have a policy towards something you should apply it equally to all or none at all.
    And if YOU have a certain belief that will make you censor some comments over others then you should be upfront about it and declare it. Not hide behind selective censorship and editing.
    I am going to take a break from this blog because it is upsetting me now.

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    1. Hello Rosman,

      I'm sorry you are upset. I promise you I did not delete your comment because of my own beliefs nor because you expressed yours. Forgive me, if I am not paraphrasing this correctly but the portion was "stop with this blessing of god sh**e". It deeply offended readers and I just opened my inbox to find emails to that effect. The derailing of the comments section in that post has quite frankly bewildered me. I would prefer if religious conversation, to that extent, was left off this blog. It's not the forum for it and can only create unwanted issues.

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    2. Charlotte I appreciate your clarification. And I understand why people were offended. Honestly I wrote that because I was offended by the constant religiosity and I guess I must have wanted to offend back. As you say, this is really not the forum. I really hope these topics can be left off the blog.

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  37. And Charlotte I do apologize for being part of the derailing of the comments in the last post. I should have just taken a break from the blog when I saw those comments.

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  38. For all the curiosity of Kate’s pregnancy and timing, I think KP will announce at the mark of her first trimester within the next four weeks hopefully. This is a new child in formation towards arriving in this world, and the mother currently is in discomfort. IMHO, it is just better to wish congratulations and get well messages. There is a time for all other discussion regarding number of pregnancies in this world (previous blog).

    I hope the people concerned for the nation and the environment are nonsmokers, who don’t drive cars, recycle plastics/paper, do volunteer work, and don’t have family/friends with more than two children. Personally one good way to volunteer is mentoring teenage/young adults in use of contraceptive, preventive unplanned pregnancies, and set them on goal oriented future.

    To the extent that Julia and others who live in UK, bringing the principle “be judged by what you judge” ,is understandable to the point. That, is if Charles stated more than two children is not good for the environment. The discussion took a cringe worthy state at some point though.

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  39. Kind of wish I hadn't come back to read more comments. No woman should be thought of as less than as a mother due to her career decisions. Whether a career is what she desires whilst raising children or being a stay at home mum is her career decision she should be respected for doing what she thinks is best for her children and her family. To me feminism isn't being a career woman, it is having the ability to choose and not being looked down upon or judged for that choice. Even if your choice isn't the choice of others having the ability to make that choice is the important factor. I wish that those who choose to stay home with little ones were given as much respect as those who juggle work and family. The divisive nature of the argument and this conversation just proves we as a society have a long way to go. I've been on both sides and judged in both sides. What women and new mums need is support. Not backhanded compliment or behind the back judgements. None of us know someone else's situation or their struggles and all the judgement does is separate us and fracture us.

    The Queen worked tirelessly when her children were young and she should be lauded. Kate works hard at home with her children as a constant presence and comforter. She should be lauded. We don't need to understand someone's decisions to support them or, at the very least, not ridicule and condemn them. As long as it's working mum versus stay at home mum there will be a divide. It should just be mums together.

    Charlotte works very hard to make this blog welcoming and different than so many who seem to thrive on negativity. We should respect her work and desires and be a community. I'm not saying we need to agree all the time about everything but this issue shouldn't be included. There is enough mum guilt we heap on ourselves and the world at large is just as bad. This place should be neutral of sorts.

    I have immense respect for so many posters here and many of them are people I don't always agree with. I respect them and they have always shown me respect in return.

    I'm sure I've made a middle of this response but I've had a rough week so I'm a little frazzled.

    Charlotte I so appreciate all the time you dedicate to this community and your love of this topic clearly shines through. I don't want you to feel discouraged. You have turned a blog into a community. One that functions more beautifully than almost any other blog I've read or been part of. Thank you. From the bottom of my heart I appreciate you.

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    1. Courtney, thank you so much for your sensitive and balanced comment. It warmed my heart. I hope you can get some rest during the weekend and wish you a more peaceful week afterwards.

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  40. Side note about HG in reference to timeline. There is no set time when HG begins. I started suffering long before 6 weeks. In fact, I knew I was pregnant the 2nd and 3rd times because I was horribly I'll long before there were any signs. A couple days before my courses were due in fact. Sorry for the TMI but I just want people to realize it can happen very, very EARLY and start very suddenly.

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  41. I truly believe Meghan and Harry are already engaged. When I saw the cover photo again just now it was like the penny dropped and I just knew. Could be wrong, but....

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  42. I'm a first time poster, but have followed this blog for many many years! I love all the work Charlotte has put into this blog. Your dedication is amazing! This is my go to blog and one I check daily!
    I wanted to clear up a little about HG. I've had HG with all my pregnancies. I just had my 6th child, so I've had some experience! First, it doesn't just go away at 12 weeks like traditional morning sickness. I threw up every day until I delivered and that was with taking medications, too. It's awful! I wanted a big family, but knew it wasn't going to be easy. Each time I got pregnant, I hoped that maybe it wouldn't be so bad this time around and it got progressively worse with each one. My last pregnancy, I was having to get iv fluids multiple times in the first few weeks and that was on top of taking 2 different anti nausea medications. I easily lost 20 pounds before I was even 8 weeks along. With all that said, I could fake feeling well for short spurts at times. It had to be a day that I felt a little better. I couldn't eat or drink beforehand and makeup was my lifesaver. I didn't want to announce my pregnancy before I was ready and at times I had to hide it because everyone knew I got so sick. I'm wondering if that is what the Duchess did the other day. If the stars aligned and she felt better than she had been, she could have faked it, so that she wouldn't have to announce. But as quickly as good days come, bad days come, too, and when a bad day comes, there is absolutely nothing you can do. There is no faking a bad day. I'm guessing that's why the Duchess had to cancel her appearance. There also is no magic remedy that will take it away. It usually took me until about 20 weeks before I could start to feel somewhat human again and a little later before I could regularly tolerate eating and drinking (though I'd get sick every night like clockwork). I took medications until delivery to help me keep some food down so that I could gain weight. As it was, my last pregnancy ended with me weighing less than I did before I got pregnant. I guess what I'm trying to say (with all my rambling because I'm definitely sleep deprived with a newborn!) is that we have no clue how far along she is. My HG actually started before I got a positive test. I could tell you I was pregnant before I tested positive because of how sick I already was. It also didn't magically end at 12 weeks. If anything, I think the theory that they will be having an ultrasound to see/hear the heartbeat next week could be the most accurate, but even that could be far from the truth. I'm so excited for the Duke and Duchess and can't wait until next spring to find out if there will be another Prince or Princess! I'm hopeful, she will be having a time of feeling a little better and be able to see Prince George off to school, but if she's not there, I'm sure it's because she just couldn't push through, no matter how hard she tried!

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    1. Congratulations on your new baby Maggie S. πŸŽ‰
      And a big encouraging hug. :)
      You didn't sound "rambling" at all. You came through very clearly. Thank you for taking the time to share.
      Glad you and baby and your family made it through it. Hope you manage to somehow get some good rest. :$

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  43. Okay. For a little magazine cover perspective regarding the royals, here's what I found with just a very quick google. Princess Diana posed for the cover of Vanity Fair (more than once, I think), also People, Harper's Bazaar and Vogue, and perhaps others. And even a very handsome younger Prince William posed for the cover of Vanity Fair, if you can believe that, dressed in a very attractive tux. I think he was at university around that time. Hope Kate got a copy of that photo. It is a very handsome one for sure.
    So, given the fact that Meghan closed her blog, hasn't commented heretofore on her relationship with Harry, knows how he doesn't like the media....., and then, "out of the blue" joined the ranks of previous royals for a cover and interview in Vanity Fair, I am more convinced than before that this is definitely a prelude to an engagement announcement as Charlotte said, "sooner than later, a lot sooner." :)

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    1. Diana only posed for such flashy covers AFTER she's separated from Charles. As for William, it was an edition about young European royals and his photograph was chosen from an independent official photographer, much like when VF used a photo of William and Kate by Testino for their cover a few years ago. I think Meghan's interview and photoshoot is very different, and something that does not sit well with me if I am to be honest.

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    2. thanks for the history on those

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    3. surfer girl, thank you for mentioning William's VF cover of him at age 21...I had to google it ;) He looked very dapper & handsome...I'm sure Kate cherishes that photo.

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    4. Diana posed for Vogue early in in her marriage didn't she? As did Princess Anne?

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    5. Oh, and Kate. For their 100th anniversary issue.

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    6. Yes, they all did surfer girl but they are all established members of the BRF. Even if Meghan is secretly engaged, it hasn't been announced, so she is doing this as an actress on Suits and a girlfriend. A BRF girlfriend has NEVER done this before and I'm not sure it feels right. I know I'm in the minority but it really puts me back to square one with her.

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    7. You are not alone in thinking that, Erika. Many I've spoken to have the same sentiment!

      I also think there's a big difference in doing a photoshoot for a particular magazine - as Meghan has done, with an accompanying interview - from posing for a photographer who later sells the photo to the magazine. Most if not all of Princess Anne's covers are from official photographs released by the palace, then bought by Vogue for their cover. Same with Diana when she was still with Charles. I don't think the two can be compared at all.

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    8. You all have valid points for sure. I am keeping those in my mind. It is nice to have the full picture. :)

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  45. I am not sure if William’s statement, “we will be celebrating next week” is to mean 11 weeks (may be it is). There is no guarantee even at 12 weeks the illness will go away, and they will celebrate just because it is a trimester mark. I took it to mean, may be about his brother’s birthday which may, or may not come with an announcement of an engagement, still a celebration though.

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  46. "We need Catherine to get over this first bit and then we can start celebrating. It's always a bit anxious to start with, but she's well," William said. However, since Kate is again suffering from Hyperemesis Gravidarum, the prince added, "There's not much sleep going on at the moment."

    The above is from ET script. If "next week" is not included in his remark, the message seems to say, once she is over this, we will celebrate" the news.

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